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Posted on 2020-07-212020-07-21 by Roam85
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Here’s the thread in question: 
https://breakingnewsandreligion.online/2020/07/17/portland-cop-reports-frightening-racist-chants-from-white-blm-supporters/
Martin is spamming the thread, his ‘purdah’ finish is borderline bigotry to islamic and hinduist cultures, and I’ve offered no shortage of personal insults back at him.
In my opinion, we both have warranted three day bans if not permanent ones.
Roam85 Martin Sole •4 days ago• edited

…It’s f*cking pretty racist in the context of the article, yes.

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      Martin Sole  Roam85 • 4 days ago

      Says who??

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          Martin Sole  Obey • 4 days ago

          I bow to your Python meme.

          You win.

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        Roam85  Martin Sole • 4 days ago

        The black guy who was being told racist comments.

        And really anyone who actually dislikes racism seeing a black guy being jeered at with references to facial features that are often common to black people.

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          Martin Sole  Roam85 • 4 days ago

          How is it racist?

          I have a big nose and have been mocked about it since childhood.

          Mean? Yes.
          Racist? No.

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            Roam85  Martin Sole • 4 days ago • edited

            Context is key.

            If you had a flat nose and were mocked about it since childhood and were white the whole time, yeah, that comment would have nothing to do with your race. White people aren’t known for flat noses.

            If you had a flat nose and were mocked about it by people that also were making fun of narrow or squinty eyes and you were asian the whole time, that comment would be pretty f*cking racist.

            If this guy is getting flak for being a black cop and someone is throwing out remarks about his facial features and the way the features are described might have come right out of a sambo cartoon from the 30s…. yeah, it’s pretty f*cking racist.

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              Martin Sole  Roam85 • 4 days ago

              Where does “flat nose” come into it?

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                Roam85  Martin Sole • 4 days ago

                Analogously.

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                  Martin Sole  Roam85 • 4 days ago

                  How so?

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                    Roam85  Martin Sole • 4 days ago

                    As an analogy.

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                      Martin Sole  Roam85 • 4 days ago

                      Explain…

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                        Roam85  Martin Sole • 4 days ago

                        Look up what an analogy is.

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                          Martin Sole  Roam85 • 4 days ago

                          I know what it is. I’m asking how your assertion fits the description.

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                            Roam85  Martin Sole • 4 days ago

                            An analogous case of racism based on race based insults of facial features shows race-based insults based on facial features.

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                              Martin Sole  Roam85 • 4 days ago

                              Which race based insults are you referring to?

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                                Roam85  Martin Sole • 4 days ago

                                The ones about facial features that are often linked to racial stereotypes.

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                                  Martin Sole  Roam85 • 4 days ago

                                  When did I racially insult anyone regarding their facial features?

                                  Careful… you are now wandering into the arena of libel.

                                  Cite me or retract.

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                                    Roam85  Martin Sole • 4 days ago

                                    You’ve missed the point.

                                    You were never saying you never said the insults in the article above.

                                    You were saying they weren’t racist.

                                    And no one following this conversation would think my claim is libelous. They might have a thought about you sounding like either someone who is a complete moron or someone doing an impression of a complete moron.

                                    If that seems like a personal insult, feel free to tell a mod to review.

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                                      Martin Sole  Roam85 • 2 days ago

                                      I’m very much on-point.

                                      If you make a claim (big nose =racism) then the onus is on you to support that claim, not on the person questioning it.

                                      Questioning it certainly does not make the questioner a racist.

                                      Will you retract?

                                      Yes or No

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                                        Roam85  Martin Sole • 2 days ago

                                        That claim was supported through an obvious analogous example as well as references to the culture where that sort of reference was used for racial insult (US). It has a history of such.

                                        You being too dense to see multiple angles of support might make the onus on you to remove your head from your rectum because otherwise it’s not a shock nothing is getting in there.

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                                          Martin Sole  Roam85 • a day ago

                                          Tell me about this “obvious analagous example”.

                                          Break it down in a way that a judge hearing a libel case might understand.

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                                            Roam85  Martin Sole • a day ago

                                            Submit the previous conversation, assume the judge isn’t a moron, and file motion for summary judgment.

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                                              Martin Sole  Roam85 • a day ago

                                              Tip: Calling judges morons never works out. Take a look at the Sovereign Citizen hilarity for a taste of what you might have in store.

                                              At least you concede that you can’t actually demonstrate this “obvious analagous example”. That won’t work out well for you either.

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                                                Roam85  Martin Sole • a day ago • edited

                                                I said “assume the judge isn’t a moron“

                                                Moron says: “ Calling judges morons never works out. “

                                                The day you accurately represented anything in this conversation must be a date in the future

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                                                  Martin Sole  Roam85 • a day ago

                                                  “Listen here, judge, I assume you’re not a moron, so I don’t need to make a case”

                                                  I can’t wait for you to try that out in court….

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                                                    Roam85  Martin Sole • a day ago • edited

                                                    Oh… you didn’t understand that somethings can be done tacitly. Like assuming someone isn’t a moron.

                                                    I imagine because anytime someone assumed you weren’t a moron, interaction with you compelled them to have to inform you of their generosity.

                                                    Also, stop speaking for me, you’re really bad at it. I directly told you it would be “Judge, here’s the complete conversation and the original article. And here’s the motion for summary judgement”. And then we both shut up and let the judge read.

                                                    And the judge would ask you what damages resulted in this libel claim you’ve made up.

                                                    And it being an internet conversation, there would be none.

                                                    And then I’d have a countersuit for wasting my time and the damages of my attorney fees and lost time.

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                                                      Martin Sole  Roam85 • a day ago

                                                      “listen here, judge… I’m gonna tacitly assume you ain’t a moron.
                                                      Now here’s a motion for summary judgement that I wrote for ya, cos I suspect you may actually be a moron”

                                                      You’re not very good at this, are you?

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                                                        Roam85  Martin Sole • a day ago • edited

                                                        “I’m gonna tacitly” do anything is not something anyone says out loud.

                                                        Go look up the word ‘tacitly’. It means unspoken. Not said out loud. The sort of assumption you don’t announce.

                                                        And quit writing my dialogue, you’re terrible at it. With “tacit” and “analogous” as examples, I just don’t think you have the vocabulary for it.

                                                        I’m great at this, I just keep expecting you to know the english language that seems out of your grasp.

                                                        Also, what are the damages for this libel claim based on an internet conversation and what’s my duty of care?

                                                        You want to go legalese? Then substantiate your claim as you’re trying to be the complainant.

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                                                          Martin Sole  Roam85 • a day ago

                                                          “now listen here, judge… I’m gonna assume you’re the kind of moron who doesn’t know what ‘tacit’ means, so I’m gonna spell it out for ya, see?… Then I’m gonna tell you how to rule, see?…”

                                                          Dude, you’re terrible at it.

                                                          The funniest part is that you actually thought I was going to litigate and then you got all nervous about it.

                                                          LMFAO

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                                                            Roam85  Martin Sole • a day ago • edited

                                                            Not really nervous, just challenging the level of BS you’re slinging.

                                                            Which is a challenge you’ve failed at.

                                                            Just like the entire conversation.

                                                            Also “Listen here judge, I’m an internet troll” is terrible dialogue on your part, I don’t know why you keep saying it.

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                                                              Martin Sole  Roam85 • a day ago

                                                              Dude, you were peeing your pants.

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                                                                Roam85  Martin Sole • a day ago

                                                                Martin, that statement is ridiculous.

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                                                                  Martin Sole  Roam85 • 17 hours ago

                                                                  LOL.
                                                                  Sure thing. That’s why you got all panicky.

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                                                                    Roam85  Martin Sole • 17 hours ago

                                                                    Don’t think you know what panicky is. You seem to view being called out on your crap as someone panicking.

                                                                    Makes sense, we’ve established you have trouble with the definitions of simple words like “tacit” and “analogous”.

                                                                    Look, I already know you’re an idiot, you don’t need to keep confirming.

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                                                                      Martin Sole  Roam85 • 17 hours ago

                                                                      You failed to call me out on anything. You simply demonstated how little you know of the process of litigation. Telling a judge that they might be a moron was classic.

                                                                      But the fact that you actually thought you’d have to go to court over a Disqus comment… That’s priceless.

                                                                      Aww.. Did ickle Roamy get all frightened??

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                                                                        Roam85  Martin Sole • 16 hours ago • edited

                                                                        Holy crap, Martin, when you join us in reality you might be worth talking to.

                                                                        Right now you’re worth mocking and that’s about it. That is the sum total of your use.

                                                                        While I only mean to me, I sadly figure it goes beyond that.

                                                                        We’ve been over this, when someone assumes someone isn’t a moron, that doesn’t conflate to someone calling that person a moron.

                                                                        I know no one has ever made that assumption about you. There’s a reason for that.

                                                                        But let’s face it, you’re just trolling and not even trying to sound genuine anymore, so finish yourself off already.

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                                                                          Martin Sole  Roam85 • 7 hours ago

                                                                          Still smarting from your messup?

                                                                          LOL

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                                                                            Roam85  Martin Sole • 3 hours ago • edited

                                                                            Nope, sorry Martin, you still don’t know reality.

                                                                            Still haven’t dislodged your head from your ass?

                                                                            Or is it a new day so you need to troll to finish yourself again?

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                                                                              Martin Sole  Roam85 • 2 hours ago

                                                                              It’s still eating you inside, isn’t it?

                                                                              That’s why you can’t let it go.

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                                                                                Roam85  Martin Sole • an hour ago

                                                                                Not really Martin. Like you, I enjoy the last word.

                                                                                But I have zero shame for my part or dialogue. You sounded like a moron, not me.

                                                                                But we have both completely annihilated guidelines of this channel with this conversation and duration and I do recommend the mods give us both three day bans if not permanent ones.

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                                                                                  Martin Sole  Roam85 • 6 minutes ago

                                                                                  If you’re not ashamed at how badly you bungled your response, you really ought to be.

                                                                                  But now you want to shut down further debate because you’re butthurt, so I’m guessing you ARE ashamed.

                                                                                  Maybe Disqus isn’t for you?

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                                                                                    Roam85  Martin Sole • 4 minutes ago

                                                                                    It’s fine by me, but I do believe we have insulted each other too much for the guidelines of this forum.

                                                                                    If it continues, yes, it will probably be moved to the den with the suggestion we both suffer consequences for our actions.

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                                                                                      Martin Sole  Roam85 • 3 minutes from now

                                                                                      I never use insults.

                                                                                      Feel free to take yourself to whatever Purdah suits you.

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