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Follow-Up To Smiley Suggestion

Posted on 2020-07-052020-07-05 by The Unfuqwiffable Dr. Wombosi

Wombosi would first like to not that he does not want to rehash a closed threat, but that – as noted by him on various occasions – a Den thread was closed within minutes, preventing any involved party to respond in a reasonable amount of time.

That said…

@SirMarkJM answered @badtothebone ‘s suggestion as follows:

“Sorry, but we’ve always made it a habit of not punishing others for their actions caused on other sites. Those other sites have moderators and it is their job to manage their respective sites how they see fit (just like how we manage this site as seen fit). If a CM runs his/her mouth over on another site about actions here it has no merit (although it does put that CM on our radar).

If we start benching CMs for remarks they make on other sites outside of BNR that sets a dangerous precedent not to mention likely shrinks the community.”

Now, let us first note that the suggestion was not made about moderating other sites, but about preventing the abuse of Disqus’ functionality on YOUR site to harass YOUR CMs. In the recent case of Wombosi being harassed by @identityincrisis (MANchelle), comments were posted on a third-party site, which Wombois has never visited, addressing him directly and about events having occurred on this site.

In short, these actions were taken by one of YOUR CMs in direct contravention of the rules of THIS site, to harass and insult (“filth”/”swine”) a CM of THIS site. Not acting upon such direct breaches of both Disqus and the hosting company’s rules on harassment (in particular sexual harassment in the same thread by @disqus_uKO1KH4c8Q (HH); “wombosi on stolen drums, and the fearless power bottom on any stranger’s skin flute”) may not technically be a breach of your rules, but the clearly represent your breach of the rules laid out by your host and vendor.

As a final thought, Wombosi would like to point to a 10-month-old Den discussion in which @lucifers_evil_twin (Sir Loki) down-played a trolling and doxxing campaign (ignoring direct evidence by admission of the doxxing campaign’s initiator) by saying: “[…] but honestly, I think you may be in the wrong place if someone being an asshole on the internet is so uncomfortable or vexing to you.” He would like to point out that the comments and actions back then and now are going WAY beyond “being an asshole.”

Let Wombosi explain: If either of these actions would be taken against one of the handful of users using their real names in here, those real legal persons could sue. In such a suit your unwillingness to mediate, repeatedly using a rigid reference to “our rules”, especially over a period of nearly a year of such actions involving the same user, would then become gross negligence.

Wombosi thinks you are opening yourself up to legal consequences that you might not have considered. So please, consider them in one of your internal discussions.

Thanks!

P.S.: In context it might be helpful for the community and the credibility of the moderators, to suspend the practice of certain CMs calling mods in discussion threads by name to help with their campaigns of harassment – whether the called upon mods are aware they are being used for this purpose or not – as it could be construed as intentionally aiding such harassment campaigns.

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